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TRIAL OF SIR THOMAS
MORE: Letter to Master Secretary Thomas Cromwell
(March 5, 1534) But surely, good Master Cromwell, as I by mouth
declared unto you, some part (for all could I neither then say nor now
write) it
thoroughly pierceth my poor heart, that the King's Highness (whose
gracious
favor toward me far above all the things of this world I have
evermore
desired, and whereof both for the conscience of mine own true faithful
heart
and devotion toward him, and for the manifold benefits of his high
goodness
continually bestowed upon me, I thought myself always sure), should
conceive
any such mind or opinion of me, as to think that in my
communication either
with the nun or the friars, or in my letter written unto the nun, I had any other
manner mind, than might well stand with the duty of a tender loving
subject
toward his natural prince, or that his Grace should reckon in me any
manner of
obstinate heart against his pleasure in anything that ever I said or
did
concerning his great matter of his marriage or concerning the
primacy of the
Pope. Never would I wish other thing in this world more lief, than that
his
Highness in these things all three, as perfectly knew my dealing, and
as
thoroughly saw my mind, as I do myself, or as God doth himself, whose
sight
pierceth deeper into my heart than mine own. For, Sir, as for the first matter, that is to wit
my letter or communication with the nun (the whole discourse
whereof in my
former letter I have as plainly declared unto you as I possibly can),
so pray I
God to withdraw that scruple and doubt of my good mind, out of the
King's noble
breast and none otherwise, but as I not only thought none harm, but
also
purposed good, and in that thing most, in which (as I perceive) his
Grace
conceiveth most grief and suspicion, that is to wit in my letter which
I wrote
unto her. And therefore Sir, sith I have by my writing declared the
truth of my
deed, and am ready by mine oath to declare the truth of mine intent, I
can devise
no further thing by me to be done in that matter, but only beseech
almighty God
to put into the King's gracious mind, that as God knoweth the thing is
indeed,
so his noble Grace may take it. Now touching the second point
concerning his
Grace's great matter of his marriage, to the intent that you may see
cause with
the better conscience to make suit unto his highness for me, I shall as
plainly
declare you my demeanor in that matter as I have already declared
you in the
other, for more plainly can I not. Sir, upon a time at my coming from beyond the sea,
where I had been in the King's business, I repaired as my duty was unto
the
King's Grace being at that time at But
I rehearse you this to the intent you shall know that the first time
that ever
I heard that point moved, that it should be in such high degree
against the
law of nature, was the time in which, as I began to tell you, the
King's Grace
showed it me himself, and laid the Bible open before me, and there read
me the
words that moved his Highness and divers other erudite persons so
to think,
and asked me further what myself thought thereon. At which time not
presuming
to look that his Highness should anything take that point for the more
proved
or unproved for my poor mind in so great a matter, I showed
nevertheless as my
duty was at his commandment what thing I thought upon the words which I
there
read. Whereupon his Highness accepting benignly my sudden unadvised
answer
commanded me to commune further with Master Foxe, now his
Grace's
Almoner, and to read r a book with him that then was in making for that
matter.
After which book read, and my poor opinion eftsoons declared unto
his Highness
thereupon, his Highness, like a prudent and a virtuous prince,
assembled at
another time at Hampton Court a good number of very well learned men;
at which
time as far as ever I heard there were (as was in so great a matter
most likely
to be) diverse opinions among them. Howbeit I never heard but that they
agreed
at that time upon a certain form in which the book should be made,
which book
was afterward at After
this the suit began " and the Legates sat upon the matter, during
all
which time I never meddled therein, nor was a man meet to do, for the
matter
was in hand by an ordinary process of the spiritual law, whereof I
could little
skill. And yet while the Legates were sitting upon the matter, it
pleased the
King's Highness to send me in the company of my Lord of London, now of
Durham,
in embassiate about the peace that at our being there was concluded at
Cambrai,
between his Highness and the Emperor and the French King. And after my
coming
home his Highness of his only goodness (as far unworthy as I was
thereto) made
me, as you well know, his Chancellor of this realm soon after which
time his
Grace moved me again yet eftsoons, to look and consider his great
matter, and
well and indifferent to ponder such
things as I should find therein. And if it so were that thereupon it
should hap
me to see such things as should persuade me to that part, he would
gladly use
me among other of his councilors in that matter, and nevertheless he
graciously
declared unto me that he would in no wise that I should other
thing do or say
therein, than upon that that I should perceive mine own conscience
should serve
me, and that I should first look unto God and after God unto him, which
most
gracious words was the first lesson also that ever his Grace gave me at
my
first coming into his noble service. This motion was to me very
comfortable and
much I longed, beside anything that myself either had seen or by
further
search should hap to find for the one part or the other, yet specially
to have
some conference in the matter with some such of his Grace's learned
Council as
most for his part had labored and most have found in the matter. Whereupon his Highness assigned unto me the now
most reverend fathers Archbishops of Canterbury and York with Master
Doctor
Foxe, now his Grace's Almoner and Master Doctor Nicholas' the Italian
friar.
Whereupon I not only sought and read, and as far forth as my poor wit
and
learning served me, well weighed and considered every such thing as I
could
find myself, or read in any other man's labor that I could get, which
anything
had written therein, but had also diligent conference with his Grace's
councilors aforesaid, whose honors and worships I nothing mistrust
in this
point, but that they both have and will report unto his Highness
that they
never found obstinate manner or fashion in me, but a mind as toward and
as
conformable as reason could in a matter disputable require. Whereupon the King's Highness being further
advertised both by them
and myself of my poor opinion in the
matter (wherein to have been able and meet to do him service I would as
I then
shewed his Highness have been more glad than of all such worldly
commodities as I either then had or ever should
come to)
his Highness, graciously taking in gre my good mind in that behalf,
used of his
blessed disposition in the prosecuting of his great matter only
those (of whom
his Grace had good number) whose conscience his Grace perceived
well and fully
persuaded upon that part. And as well myself as any other to whom his
Highness
thought the thing to seem otherwise, he used in his other business
abiding (of
his abundant goodness) nevertheless gracious lord unto any man, nor
never was
willing to put any man in ruffle or trouble of his conscience.
After this did I never nothing more therein, nor
never any word wrote I therein to the impairing of his Grace's part,
neither
before nor after, nor any man else by my procurement, but settling
my mind in
quiet to serve his Grace in other things, I would not so much as look
nor wittingly
let lie by me any book of the other part, albeit that I gladly read
afterward
divers books that were made on his part yet, nor never would I read the
book
that Master Abell made on the other side, nor other book which were as
I heard
say made in Latin beyond the sea, nor never give ear to the Pope's
proceedings
in the matter. Moreover, whereas I had founden in my study a book
that I had before borrowed of my Lord of Bath which book he had made of
the
matter at such time as the Legates sat here thereupon, which book had
been by
me merely gently cast aside, and that I shewed him I would send him
home his
book again, he told me that in good faith he had long time before
discharged
his mind of that matter, and having forgotten that copy to remain in my
hands,
had burned his own copy that he had thereof at home, and because
he no more
minded to meddle anything in the matter, he desired me to burn the same
book
too. And upon my faith so did I. Besides this, divers other ways have I so used
myself that if I rehearsed them all, it should well appear that I
never have
had against his Grace's marriage any manner demeanor whereby his
Highness might
have any manner cause or occasion of displeasure toward me. For
likewise as I
am not he which either can, or whom it could become, to take upon him
the
determination or decision of such a weighty matter, nor boldly to
affirm this
thing or that therein, whereof diverse points a great way pass my
learning, so
am I he that among other his Grace's faithful subjects, his Highness
being in
possession of his marriage rand this noble woman really anointed
Queen',
neither murmur at it, nor dispute upon it, nor never did nor will, but
without
any other manner meddling of the matter among his other faithful
subjects
faithfully pray to God for his Grace and hers both, long to live and
well and
their noble issue too, in such wise as may be to the pleasure of God,
honor and
surety to themself, rest, peace, wealth, and profit unto this noble
realm. As touching the third point, the primacy of the
Pope, I nothing meddle in the matter. Truth it is, that as I told
you, when
you desired me to shew you what I thought therein, I was myself
sometime not of
the mind that the primacy of that see should be begun by the
institution of
God, until that I read in that matter those things that the King's
Highness had
written in his most famous book against the heresies of Martin Luther,
at the
first reading whereof I moved
the King's Highness either to leave out that
point, or else to touch it more slenderly for doubt of such things as
after
might hap to fall in question between his Highness and some pope as
between
princes and popes divers times have done. Whereunto his Highness
answered me
that he would in no wise anything minish of that matter, of which thing
his
Highness shewed me a secret cause whereof I never had anything heard
before.
But surely after that I had read his Grace's book therein, and so many
other
things as I have seen in that point by this continuance of these ten
years
since and more have found in effect the substance of all r the holy
doctors'
from Saint Ignatius " disciple to Saint John the Evangelist, unto our
own
days both Latins and Greeks so consonant and agreeing in that point,
and the
thing by such general councils so confirmed also, that in good faith I
never
neither read nor heard anything of such effect on the other side,
that ever
could lead me to think that my conscience were well discharged, but
rather in
right great peril if! should follow the other side and deny the
primacy to be
provided by God; which if we did, yet can I nothing (as I shewed you)
perceive
any commodity that ever could come by that denial, for that
primacy is at the
leastwise instituted by the corps of Christendom and for a great
urgent cause
in avoiding of schisms and corroborate by continual succession more
than the
space of a thousand year at the least, for there are passed almost a
thousand
years sith the time of holy Saint Gregory. And therefore sith all Christendom is one corps, I
cannot perceive how any member thereof may without the common assent of
the
body depart from the common head. And then, if we may not lawfully
leave it by
ourself, I cannot perceive (but if the thing were a treating in a
general council)
what the question could avail whether the primacy were instituted
by God or
ordained by the Church. As for the general councils assembled
lawfully, I
never could perceive but that in the declaration of the truths it is to
be believed
and to be standen to; the authority thereof ought to be taken for
undoubtable,
or else were there in nothing no certainty, but through
Christendom upon every
man's affectionate reason, all things might be brought from day to day
to
continual ruffle and confusion, from which by the general
councils, the spirit
of God assisting, every such council well assembled keepeth and
ever shall
keep r the corps of his Catholic Church. And verily sith the King's Highness hath (as by the
book of his honorable Council appeareth) appealed to the general
council from
the Pope, in which council I beseech our Lord send his Grace
comfortable speed,
methinketh in my poor mind it could be no furtherance there unto his
Grace's
cause if his Highness should in his own realm before, either by laws
making, or
books putting forth, seem to derogate and deny not only the primacy of
the See
apostolic, but also the authority of the general councils too, which I
verily
trust his Highness intendeth not, for in the next general council it
may well
happen that this Pope may be deposed and another substituted in his
room with
whom the King's Highness may be very well content. For albeit that I
have for
mine own part such opinion of the pope's primacy as I have shewed you,
yet
never thought I the Pope above the general council' nor never have in
any book
of mine put forth among the King's subjects in our vulgar tongue,
advanced
greatly the Pope's authority. For albeit that a man may peradventure
somewhat
find therein that after the common manner of all Christian realms I
speak of
him as primate, yet never do I stick thereon with reasoning and proving
of that
point. And in my book against the Masker', I wrote not I wot well five
lines,
and yet of no more but only Saint Peter himself, from whose person many
take
not the primacy, even of those that grant it none of his successors,
and yet
was that book made, printed, and put forth of very truth before that
any of the
books of the Council was either printed or spoken of. But whereas I had
written
thereof at length in my confutation before and for the proof thereof
had
compiled together all that I could find therefor, at such time as I
little looked
that there should fall between the King's Highness and the Pope
such a breach
as is fallen since, when I after saw the thing likely to draw towards
such
displeasure between them, I suppressed it utterly and never put word
thereof
into my book but put out the remnant without it, which thing well
declareth
that I never intended anything to meddle in that matter against
the King's
gracious pleasure, whatsoever mine own opinion were therein. And thus have I, good Master Cromwell, long
troubled your Mastership with a long process of these matters,
with which I
neither durst nor it could become me to encumber the King's noble
Grace, but I
beseech you, for our Lord's love, that you be not so weary of my most
cumbrous
suit but that it may like you at such opportune time or times as your
wisdom
may find to help that his Highness may by your goodness be fully
informed of
my true faithful mind, and that in the matter of that wicked woman
there never
was on my part any other mind than good; nor yet in any other thing
else never
was there nor never shall there be any further fault found in me, than
that I
cannot in everything think the same way that some other men of more
wisdom and
deeper learning do; nor can find in mine heart otherwise to say than as
mine
own conscience giveth me, which condition hath never grown in anything
that
ever might touch his gracious pleasure of any obstinate mind or
misaffectionate
appetite, but of a timorous conscience rising haply for lack of better
perceiving, and yet not without tender
respect unto my most bounden duty toward his noble Grace, whose only
favor I so
much esteem that I nothing have of mine own in all this world, except
only my
soul, but that I will with better will forgo it than abide of his
Highness one
heavy displeasant look. And thus I make an end of my long troublous
process,
beseeching the blessed Trinity for the great goodness ye shew me, and
the great
comfort ye do me, both bodily and ghostly to prosper you, and in heaven
to
reward you. At Your
deeply bounden, Tho. More. Kg. |